Joy, we last met you at the hideout where you had taken our father to keep him out of reach of the people who love him deeply. You were wearing the Jade bracelet that our father gave you on his first visit to Taiwan (at a time when he also gave you a new pair of glasses, an expensive titanium ring and the trumpet he had bought for our mother as she lay sick with cancer).
You were no longer wearing the USD 1,000-worth necklace that our father bought you with money he does not have for your birthday (purchased together with an expensive bottle of perfume and a miniskirt). We gather that necklace - portraying a trapped rose attached onto a chain of rings - was not really to your liking as it quickly disappeared.
When we met you at Kulo’s place, you were wearing the last of our father’s valuables: a masculine titanium necklace and matching ring (purchased by our father for another USD 1,000 on your birthday shopping spree). But more disturbing was the sight of our father’s golden wedding ring - engraved with our mother’s name - on your middle finger.
Bettan Garvi’s gold wedding ring to Arne Garvi on Joy Tang’s finger
Joy, what has brought you to put on your finger a wedding ring that bears another woman’s name? Are you so destitute that you will lay your hand on any valuable that comes your way, even when it is not yours to take? Since you came into the picture, you have wanted to take on the role and personality of our mother, portraying her sickness, her vulnerability, and even claiming to share her love for children. However, as much as you try to steal the identity of a much loved woman, you cannot, for her life is sealed and her legacy lives on.
It is not for sale, nor are Bettan and Arne’s achievements with Eden.
Joy, we demand that you hand back the ring of our mother. Although it is the last piece of “material” wealth our father still possesses, it holds a value much higher than gold. It is the token of Bettan’s vows and faithfulness to the man she loved, and it should not be carried on any other person’s hand than the receiver himself.
If our mother were here to speak for herself, she would reclaim the ring she once gave her beloved as a token of her eternal love for the man who won her heart.
It is high time you stop stealing from the dead and purchase your own token of affection.
Signed,
Miriam, Josef & Esther Garvi
Taipei, Taiwan
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackMaybe the ring represents something special to Arne and so he wanted Joy to have it. You are looking at every little detail in Joy’s life and making judgements which may or may not be correct.
The bottom line…is it really any of your business to say he cannot be the one to decide who should have this ring next?
Can we trust you to make accurate assumptions of the situation because the truth is that you want your father back? How many humans would stand such measurement and judgement? If we look closely at all our lives, we would see many shortcomings. The fact that we are so imperfect is part of being human. Why do we have to take that humanity that we are as a bad thing. It is not a bad thing if we are open to change and improvement and we don’t see our flaws in a overly shameful and negative way, but rather an expression of the beauty of life in all its diversity and desire to evolve to a higher state of being.
Possibly some are more flawed than others, but who are we to say who is worse? I gather that Jesus means a lot to you…in my interpretation a key teaching of his is that our true “TRANSFORMATION” only comes when we focus on our own spiritual development, rather than judging others. We should avoid making such comparisons, because life has a way of throwing us curves, especially when we see ourselves as morally superior to other people who think differently than us or have had different experiences in this life.
Of course ultimately, we make judgements in our lives, but we need to use care, compassion and thoughtfulness in that process. That comes with maturity and discernment. I am not seeing that yet in you and your family on this blog. But I am still looking for it.
If I got to know you on a personal basis for example I suspect I would see contradictions between what you profess to say you are and what you really are in the reality of everyday life.
In my view it is a metaphysical or spiritual reality that when we spend so much or too much of our time judging others (and that includes making assumptions about every little thing that people we may be threatened by do), we have not the energy left to do our own spiritual work.
Gandhi as you may know spoke about “being the change” so my suggestion is focus on that. Bring your father back in that way. Show your father the best that you are not the worst and maybe that will capture his heart again. You are coming from a place of fear about Joy and her powers rather than seeing the power of YOU to do good and be a loving, compassion person in the model of Jesus. Show him the bright light that you are, don’t show him the dark. He needs light!
Dont you think this is what Jesus would say? If he is in darkness (for whatever reason) now will more darkness heal him? Does that make any sense to you based on your understanding of the teachings of Jesus Christ? No! He was a man of the light and he spread his teaching by inspiring people that there was that light in each of us and that we have the potential and share that great and powerful light with each other.
That is the healing and TRANSFORMATION Joy is talking about and she has many times inspired me in this way. She may not always get it perfect but I know that it is her heart and spirit intent. All the world’s religions reflect this truth. If we truly want world peace there is no other way than to respect each culture’s and each religions unique expression of this.
Beware though…because regardless of how bad of evil you think Joy is, you may pass a point with your father that you may anger him so with you actions of recent…that he may never come back to you in this life time. I can sense you are nearing that point. I hope you see this to because it is not just about stopping the harassment of Joy that I am concerned with but also your relationship with you father, because you are now a part of my life whether I like it or not.
So yes you may succeed in breaking him and Joy apart, but ultimately in the end you will lose because of the anger in his heart that will linger long after your shortsighted and singleminded concept of success. It is much easier to destroy than to create. Possibly your father is a compassionate man but if you break your fathers heart in this process, in a way he sees as ruthless and uncaring (as it seems he now does), he may hold you in contempt for the rest of this life…
Think carefully about your actions now and consider the possible consequences in relation to your relationship with your father for the rest of his life that he is living on this planet. If you claim to love as you do give him the space to decide whether Joy is the person for him. Do you think he is so weak that he cannot decide for himself? I know you think Joy has put a spell on him but according to lore but even if that was the case spells wear off. If it is lasting love, it will continue but you cannot make the decision it is not yours to make. Give your father some space to decide what is best for him and trust in him to make the right decision.
If you cannot grant your father the capacity to make his own decisions in his love life, to me your love is just hollow words that serve to please yourself and your own delusions and little more. You cant impose love on people, it has to be unconditional and based on the FAITH that they will make the right decision and love us back in a way that fits our need for love. When you love with conditions, that’s not really love its something else…like maybe infatuation.
Isn’t that why Jesus crashed the idols of Hebrewism at his time? The supposed love of religious tradition and custom was all about infatuation with a delusion that was controlled by the high priests, not really love for life and the universe and all the spirits that keep it alive.
God is not out there…it is within each of us and it shines between us. See the God in each of us and give back to that God in everything that we do to each other and you will not go wrong. You will have nothing to fear - not even the loss of your father.
Right now I suggest you focus on YOU and NOT Joy. You want to be sure you still have a loving relationship with your father. Right? Possibly after what you have done that is not possible. However, maybe its up to you and how you evolve in this crisis.
I see you mock Joy’s use of the word transformation…but transformation means different things to different people. It is not for me to say that my idea of transformation is any better or worse than yours and the same goes in relation to you towards me. Let people decide their own path for their own transformation. God or spirit cannot be forced upon people it has to openly and loving embraced as the truth that binds the universe and all life together. Once you see that is all that matters nothing will hurt you. For me this realization came from my understanding of Jesus Christ and his life and its significance for him and the greater humanity that was inspired by him and the light that he was and IS.
So if I were to shine a flashlight on your life what would I see? I suspect it is more like what you see are Joy’s shortcomings than you would want to admit, because that’s the way the world operates.
I see without exception, that people busy pointing a finger at others are never able to meet the high standards that they impose upon others. Who said “he who is not sinned shall cast the first stone?” And why did he say that? Lets get into that a bit…Could we? I am curious about how you feel about this.
It is not my policy to invade people’s privacy as I feel you and your brother and sister have in relation to Joy’s very brief time with Arne. However, I am also curious about a lot of things in terms of how you grew up in Africa. That is especially the case for me, since you set such a high moral standard for Joy and your constant judging and nitpicking of every little thing she does. I sincerely hope your personal reality is up to the same standard that colors your judgements towards Joy. Maybe we can go into that sometime soon?
Talk soon…
Jeff
I can’t believe seeing her wearing your mom’s wedding ring… For me it shows her lack of honour, love, grace and all the respect someone would give to someone she loves deeply….
Send you Esther angels and blessings!
Jag bara häpnar!!! Vad är detta?
What is this?
She cannot be in her right mind!
Did they disappear again?
Maybe they managed to get married?
Why did your father give her the wedding ring?
Why all these expensive gifts?
Are you getting some answers from them finally?
But most of all: have you asked your Dad what kind of a pain he always has, and what is Joy doing to him?
Does he need a regular checkup, to see if there is anything wrong with him?
Maybe all or most of this questions he would answer to his friend if he was pushing.
What is next?
G.
Jeff:
” He was a man of the light and he spread his teaching by inspiring people that there was that light in each of us and that we have the potential and share that great and powerful light with each other.
That is the healing and TRANSFORMATION Joy is talking about and she has many times inspired me in this way. She may not always get it perfect but I know that it is her heart and spirit intent.
”
This is a very disturbing explanation of what is Joy doing.
First of all, why bring Jesus into this, is Joy messing around with Christianity as well?
Second: what kind of a transformation did we see here? A man, who became a shadow of himself, and whose life is being transformed into utter chaos, who financially draining
everything into her gifts, who has become irrational, violent, irresponsible, and very very confused, and who is becoming suicidal?
Is this the beautiful spiritual transforemation that Joy is spreading to what it looks like man after man (did she transform her American byfriend as well? What was the monitary worth of that?)
But what is even more disturbing, when you say she does not get it always right?
You mean when her voodoo does not work? when her patient commits suicide, when her unsuccesfull transformation is tragic?
No… there is no excuse for that.
G.
Joy, finally are you talking to all of us via Jeff?
I am reading Jeff’s rambling note section by section, and I am getting more convinced, that we are hearing from Joy herself at last.
G.
How odd - I can’t think of (m)any women I know who would ever want to wear the wedding ring of a boyfriend’s wife. I can’t imagine how upsetting that must be for you all.
We all had to know that the time would come when Jeff or Joy would have to express an opinion. Being on the outside looking in, it is very difficult to have the total picture. For whatever reason, Arne is obsessed with Joy. In that state, he has wooed her with gifts (that part is not so unusual). What is unusual, is the way his mind goes in and out…even if his children were begging him to come home, in his right mind he would not punch them. Jeff knows Joy in a different way…perhaps if he had been there, he would understand the extreme difference in Arne. If his family thought something was not very wrong, they would have been in Niger weeks ago. This is not a cartoon!
It is real life, and somehow these people need to sort things out and come to some very serious conclusions. This “game” can’t go on forever.
The hardest thing for me to understand, is why Joy does not stick up for herself. If her intentions are good and honorable, she does not display them by example…please explain why Arne has changed and exhibits such “different” behavior. If he truly was upset by the death of his wife, why would he give his ring to Joy? I don’t get it.
It is true, we are on the outside, but I don’t care who you are or what the circumstances, it is not normal, healthy, or loving to exhibit that much control over another human being. I pay for a peaceful resolution.
Jeff, to paraphrase Ralph Waldo Emerson:
“Joy’s actions speak so loudly, we can’t hear what you’re saying.”
Jeff,
Interesting insight coming from a man who to my knowledge has never met my father. You seem to accuse his children of carrying some kind of unreasonable grudge against the woman who is asking us all to leave this man to his own destruction.
It does not appear that you have read up on the blog posts of the last ten days. If so, you would certainly have found some light in the dark:
http://esthergarvi.com/2010/02/28/embracing-love-by-miriam-garvi/
http://esthergarvi.com/2010/02/20/remember-dad-2/
Jeff, I welcome a conversation, but do come clean as to the extent and the nature of your relationship with Joy. For like you say yourself, transparency is the key.
Totally agree with Susanne! There is no sane justification for what is going on except underlying criminal intent.
Perhaps Arne did give that ring to Joy….but willingly or under duress? We the readers don’t know. We have to believe the account our friends are giving us. They are there and can put the pieces together.
It is true that Jesus loved many that were deemed by the religious leaders of the day to be not worth their while….tax collectors, prostitutes, bleeding women, and Gentiles….you and me. He hung out with them, loved them, forgave them, accepted them as His own. But He had no patience with those who took advantage of the weak, the poor, the down-trodden or the religious people who had no love for God. Jesus Himself made a whip, overturned tables, and drove merchants out of the temple. Why? 1. They had desecrated His Father’s house and 2. They were taking advantage of poor people. If Joy is taking advantage of Arne and his family, then there is no reason his children need to restrain themselves from doing what needs to be done to rescue him.
In the Bible, love wins and evil is conquered and it is not always an easy or pretty battle.
My prayers continue to be with your family, Esther. I pray in Jesus’ name that this will soon be resolved.
I should add that I don’t mean they need to use violent force, but I do mean they shouldn’t just sit idly by watching their world spin out of control just because that would be the “peaceful” or “inclusive” thing to do.
Hej Miriam, Josef och Esther!
Jag fick ju höra talas om detta som hänt från mina föräldrar (eftersom ni har gått ut öppet med det).
Vill bara säga att det är väldigt nära till tårar när man sitter och läser om vad ni går igenom och jag är så oerhört imponerad av er vishet och starka tro i sammanhanget. Ni finns mycket i mina tankar och i mina böner, för även om inte jag kan bidra med så mycket så är bön ett kraftfullt redskap…
Det var så jätteroligt att träffa er på Miriams disputation och jag vet ju att du Miriam skickade en hälsning til min mail om att träffas, det var strax innan du skulle iväg på någon resa (minns inte riktigt var nu). Josef, det var väldigt roligt att möta dig på Markus bröllop oxå (även om det då var tillfälle att bara säga hej). Jag kommer sent att glömma ditt tal, det var så oerhört roligt och fick mig verkligen att skratta…Det vore så kul att träffa dig Miriam och er om ni är i Sverige någon gång och har tid över…Min innerliga bön är då att allt detta ska ha fått en lösning. Även ni finns i mina böner att ni ska orka hålla ut och jag blir så “arg” att ni ska råka ut för detta oxå efter det ni fick gå igenom med Bettan och så…men jag tvivlar inte en sekund på att ni kommer att komma igenom det med Guds kraft och vänner som stödjer er…
Vill bara önska er all Guds välsignelse.
Kram från en som är med er i bön
Kerstin (Smögen)
There is one way I can imagine Arne giving the ring willingly to Joy - if Joy convinced him, that she brought Bettan’s spirit back to life in herself. Does her religion plays with this possibility?
G.
It is shocking to me the way Joy is stringing Arne along for what he can give her and also shocking to hear of her psychological domination and control over him. Arne has become weak and powerless in the relationship….talk about mind control!
Arne’s “transformation” is not at all a good thing—horrible pains when he tries to resist her teachings, obvious suffering, confusion, punching his daughters in the face, accepting a punch in the face from Joy. The Bible teaches that “The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.” (Galatians 5:22-23). “The Spirit” here is the Holy Spirit, one of the three persons of the Trinity, the triune God, Creator of the heavens and the earth. The Holy Spirit dwells within all true Christians, those who have believed on Jesus Christ for salvation, not within non-Christians.
I read your last post and the response of Jeff and I just wanted to say you should see that as an encouragement that you are on the right track. Obviously you and your family are making waves in their world and they are lashing out against you. It’s just like the enemy to attack you and say your intentions are bad. Even to the point of threatening you with the loss of your father’s love or relationship. It is very onbvious that you are getting close and they don’t like it. Also, I would assume this is coming form a person who doesn’t consider himself christian yet wants to use the word to attack you. Please take heart in knowing that you are shining a light into the darkness and those that are dwelling in it are lashing back at you. Your love for your father is touching so many. We are still praying and will continue praying with you until he is safe at home with his family.
That is just very low and totally materialistic to me… a ring like that has no place on Joy’s hand and she would know that if she was a decent person with true love for A! Actions definitely speak louder than words!!!!
So Bruder has been unleashed. And what does he do?
“It is not my policy to invade people’s privacy as I feel you and your brother and sister have in relation to Joy’s very brief time with Arne. However, I am also curious about a lot of things in terms of how you grew up in Africa. That is especially the case for me, since you set such a high moral standard for Joy and your constant judging and nitpicking of every little thing she does. I sincerely hope your personal reality is up to the same standard that colors your judgements towards Joy. Maybe we can go into that sometime soon?
Talk soon…”
Makes threats.
Sweet.
Is it too far of a leap to guess that anything that Jeff writes, Joy reviews and edits?
What is abusive power’s best friend? Fear.
Fear and abusive power, hand-in-hand they are themes running through this tragic saga.
“Fearful people are more dependent, more easily manipulated and controlled, more susceptible to deceptively simple, strong, tough measures and hard-line postures. … They may accept and even welcome repression if it promises to relieve their insecurities.”
George Gerber
A good question was asked on Esther’s facebook page. Thought it was so relevant that it needed to be restated here:
“How is it, that your organization is not a registered foundation with the IRS? And it’s also not registered to do business in the state of California?
Or do you have a tax i.d. and Form 990 as is legally required to operate a non-profit and solicit donations in the United States?”
Reasonable questions.
Couple more “reasonable questions” for Jeff.
How long have you personally known Joy Tang?
How long have you been on the staff of OneVillage Foundation?
Many of us are praying that the truth will be revealed, and that is definitely happening just now. When loving concern is labeled “fear”, that is just a typical exemple of manipulating the language. The same manipulation is behind the use of word as “love and transformation” when it in reality means control and manipulation and hiding of motives.
We will now pray that the next fase will be a a real release of the prisoner, Arne, our dear brother.
Esther, as always, I am praying and just can’t even think what to say that might encourage you. Know that I am praying God will send just what you all need at this time. Stay strong, b
Susanne, carefully read my comment on Esther’s blog post and then respond pls. So you cant hear what I am saying because of Joy’s actions? What actions specifically. If you are going to make such a comment list them specifically. What if I were to take a microscope to your personal life and start exploring your life…in a very intrusive and invasive way…and then posted that info on the net for all the world to see? I would hope that the thought of such an experience would cause you to quiet down a bit and start considering my points.
Jeff, I’ve pointed out Joy’s untrustworthy actions in several other wall posts. I’m not about to get into a debate with you.
So you’re the director of OneVillage Foundation. How is it, that your organization is not a registered foundation with the IRS? And it’s also not registered to do business in the state of California?
Or do you have a tax i.d. and Form 990 as is legally required to operate a non-profit and solicit donations in the United States?
Jeff, you commented to Susanne, “So you can’t hear what I am saying because of Joy’s actions? What actions specifically. If you are going to make such a comment list them specifically.”
Here is a specific action:
Joy Tang punched Arne Garvi’s right eye causing injury - black eye. Stated to Esther Garvi that the reason for abuse was to punish him for disrespecting her friends.
IMO this action would, of itself, be sufficient to cause Arne’s family great concern for the well being of their father.
Comment please Jeff.
So, when I met Joy in Berlin the morning after my father’s return from Taiwan, one of the first things I asked Joy about was the black eye. Joy admitted to punching Arne, and, when I asked about what had called for such violence, she stated it was a punishment for “disrespecting my friends”.
Through all this we have learned Joy Tang is obviously a sociopath, a harlett, and a master of manipulation. Seems like her house of cards is tumbling down…you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. Her game is up.
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