Comments on: Stealing from the Dead - a Tantric Tradition?

By: photogchic

photogchic — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:56:53 +0000

Through all this we have learned Joy Tang is obviously a sociopath, a harlett, and a master of manipulation. Seems like her house of cards is tumbling down…you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. Her game is up.

By: oneredhorse

oneredhorse — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:46:20 +0000

Jeff, you commented to Susanne, “So you can’t hear what I am saying because of Joy’s actions? What actions specifically. If you are going to make such a comment list them specifically.”

Here is a specific action:

Joy Tang punched Arne Garvi’s right eye causing injury - black eye. Stated to Esther Garvi that the reason for abuse was to punish him for disrespecting her friends.

IMO this action would, of itself, be sufficient to cause Arne’s family great concern for the well being of their father.

Comment please Jeff.

So, when I met Joy in Berlin the morning after my father’s return from Taiwan, one of the first things I asked Joy about was the black eye. Joy admitted to punching Arne, and, when I asked about what had called for such violence, she stated it was a punishment for “disrespecting my friends”.

By: Susanne

Susanne — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:17:14 +0000

Jeff, I’ve pointed out Joy’s untrustworthy actions in several other wall posts. I’m not about to get into a debate with you.

So you’re the director of OneVillage Foundation. How is it, that your organization is not a registered foundation with the IRS? And it’s also not registered to do business in the state of California?

Or do you have a tax i.d. and Form 990 as is legally required to operate a non-profit and solicit donations in the United States?

By: Jeff Buderer, Director of Operations of One Village Foundation (founded by Joy Tang)

Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:16:52 +0000

Susanne, carefully read my comment on Esther’s blog post and then respond pls. So you cant hear what I am saying because of Joy’s actions? What actions specifically. If you are going to make such a comment list them specifically. What if I were to take a microscope to your personal life and start exploring your life…in a very intrusive and invasive way…and then posted that info on the net for all the world to see? I would hope that the thought of such an experience would cause you to quiet down a bit and start considering my points.

By: 5nomads

5nomads — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:34:38 +0000

Esther, as always, I am praying and just can’t even think what to say that might encourage you. Know that I am praying God will send just what you all need at this time. Stay strong, b

By: Swedish Eagle

Swedish Eagle — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:59:59 +0000

Many of us are praying that the truth will be revealed, and that is definitely happening just now. When loving concern is labeled “fear”, that is just a typical exemple of manipulating the language. The same manipulation is behind the use of word as “love and transformation” when it in reality means control and manipulation and hiding of motives.
We will now pray that the next fase will be a a real release of the prisoner, Arne, our dear brother.

By: oneredhorse

oneredhorse — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:47:43 +0000

Couple more “reasonable questions” for Jeff.
How long have you personally known Joy Tang?
How long have you been on the staff of OneVillage Foundation?

By: oneredhorse

oneredhorse — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:07:56 +0000

A good question was asked on Esther’s facebook page. Thought it was so relevant that it needed to be restated here:

“How is it, that your organization is not a registered foundation with the IRS? And it’s also not registered to do business in the state of California?

Or do you have a tax i.d. and Form 990 as is legally required to operate a non-profit and solicit donations in the United States?”

Reasonable questions.

By: oneredhorse

oneredhorse — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:50:17 +0000

“Fearful people are more dependent, more easily manipulated and controlled, more susceptible to deceptively simple, strong, tough measures and hard-line postures. … They may accept and even welcome repression if it promises to relieve their insecurities.”

George Gerber

By: oneredhorse

oneredhorse — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:44:19 +0000

So Bruder has been unleashed. And what does he do?

“It is not my policy to invade people’s privacy as I feel you and your brother and sister have in relation to Joy’s very brief time with Arne. However, I am also curious about a lot of things in terms of how you grew up in Africa. That is especially the case for me, since you set such a high moral standard for Joy and your constant judging and nitpicking of every little thing she does. I sincerely hope your personal reality is up to the same standard that colors your judgements towards Joy. Maybe we can go into that sometime soon?

Talk soon…”

Makes threats.

Sweet.

Is it too far of a leap to guess that anything that Jeff writes, Joy reviews and edits?

What is abusive power’s best friend? Fear.

Fear and abusive power, hand-in-hand they are themes running through this tragic saga.

By: OR mama

OR mama — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:23:05 +0000

That is just very low and totally materialistic to me… a ring like that has no place on Joy’s hand and she would know that if she was a decent person with true love for A! Actions definitely speak louder than words!!!!

By: Jenny

Jenny — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:15:18 +0000

I read your last post and the response of Jeff and I just wanted to say you should see that as an encouragement that you are on the right track. Obviously you and your family are making waves in their world and they are lashing out against you. It’s just like the enemy to attack you and say your intentions are bad. Even to the point of threatening you with the loss of your father’s love or relationship. It is very onbvious that you are getting close and they don’t like it. Also, I would assume this is coming form a person who doesn’t consider himself christian yet wants to use the word to attack you. Please take heart in knowing that you are shining a light into the darkness and those that are dwelling in it are lashing back at you. Your love for your father is touching so many. We are still praying and will continue praying with you until he is safe at home with his family.

By: Pat VanderBeek

Pat VanderBeek — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:20:58 +0000

It is shocking to me the way Joy is stringing Arne along for what he can give her and also shocking to hear of her psychological domination and control over him. Arne has become weak and powerless in the relationship….talk about mind control!

Arne’s “transformation” is not at all a good thing—horrible pains when he tries to resist her teachings, obvious suffering, confusion, punching his daughters in the face, accepting a punch in the face from Joy. The Bible teaches that “The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.” (Galatians 5:22-23). “The Spirit” here is the Holy Spirit, one of the three persons of the Trinity, the triune God, Creator of the heavens and the earth. The Holy Spirit dwells within all true Christians, those who have believed on Jesus Christ for salvation, not within non-Christians.

By: gina

gina — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:28:36 +0000

There is one way I can imagine Arne giving the ring willingly to Joy - if Joy convinced him, that she brought Bettan’s spirit back to life in herself. Does her religion plays with this possibility?

By: Kerstin Anderson (Smögen)

Kerstin Anderson (Smögen) — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:52:39 +0000

Hej Miriam, Josef och Esther!
Jag fick ju höra talas om detta som hänt från mina föräldrar (eftersom ni har gått ut öppet med det).
Vill bara säga att det är väldigt nära till tårar när man sitter och läser om vad ni går igenom och jag är så oerhört imponerad av er vishet och starka tro i sammanhanget. Ni finns mycket i mina tankar och i mina böner, för även om inte jag kan bidra med så mycket så är bön ett kraftfullt redskap…
Det var så jätteroligt att träffa er på Miriams disputation och jag vet ju att du Miriam skickade en hälsning til min mail om att träffas, det var strax innan du skulle iväg på någon resa (minns inte riktigt var nu). Josef, det var väldigt roligt att möta dig på Markus bröllop oxå (även om det då var tillfälle att bara säga hej). Jag kommer sent att glömma ditt tal, det var så oerhört roligt och fick mig verkligen att skratta…Det vore så kul att träffa dig Miriam och er om ni är i Sverige någon gång och har tid över…Min innerliga bön är då att allt detta ska ha fått en lösning. Även ni finns i mina böner att ni ska orka hålla ut och jag blir så “arg” att ni ska råka ut för detta oxå efter det ni fick gå igenom med Bettan och så…men jag tvivlar inte en sekund på att ni kommer att komma igenom det med Guds kraft och vänner som stödjer er…
Vill bara önska er all Guds välsignelse.

Kram från en som är med er i bön

Kerstin (Smögen)